...a God who could make good children as easily a bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could have made every one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave is angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths justice, and invented hell--mouths mercy, and invented hell--mouths Golden Rules and foregiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; who mouths morals to other people, and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites his poor abused slave to worship him!
- No. 44, The Mysterious Stranger ~ Mark Twain
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Things that make you go hummmmm.....
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lota6177
Posted 8 months ago # -
lota6177
Every religion in this world is the work of man. Every book has been written by man. Men existed before the books. If books had existed before man, I might admit there was such a thing as a sacred volume. Man never had an idea—man will never have an idea, except those supplied to him by his surroundings.
Every idea in the world that man has came to him by nature. You can imagine an animal with the hoof of a bison, with the pouch of the kangaroo, with the wings of an eagle, with the beak of a bird, and with the tail of the lion; and yet every point of this monster you borrowed from nature. Every thing you can think of, every thing you can dream of, is borrowed from your surroundings. And there is nothing on this earth coming from any other sphere whatever.Man has produced every religion in the world. And why? Because each religion bodes forth the knowledge and the belief of the people at the time it was made, and in no book is there any knowledge found, except that of the people who wrote it. In no book is there found any knowledge, except that of the time in which it was written.
Barbarians have produced, and always will produce barbarian religions; barbarians have produced and always will produce ideas in harmony with their surroundings, and all the religions of the past were produced by barbarians. ~ Robert Green Ingersoll http://www.gutenberg.org/files/37699/37699-h/37699-h.htm
Posted 8 months ago # -
lota6177
Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
The BuddhaPosted 8 months ago # -
lota6177
Believe nothing, no matter where you read it or who has said it, not even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.” –Buddha
Posted 8 months ago # -
bebus
\"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it or who has said it, not even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.” –Buddha\"
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That is the reason that Buddhism is one of the most respected religion amongst the non-Buddhists.Posted 8 months ago # -
lota6177
intolerance is the first sign of an inadequate education. An ill-educated person behaves with arrogant impatience, whereas truly profound education breeds humility.”
― Aleksandr I. SolzhenitsynPosted 8 months ago # -
lota6177
The church hates a thinker precisely for the same reason a robber dislikes a sheriff, or a thief despises the prosecuting witness. Tyranny likes courtiers, flatterers, followers, fawners, and superstition wants believers, disciples, zealots, hypocrites, and subscribers. The church demands worship -- the very thing that man should give to no being, human or divine. ~~ Robert Green Ingersoll
Posted 8 months ago # -
lota6177
Faith consists in believing when it is beyond the power of reason to believe.
VoltairePosted 7 months ago # -
oblivion
“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.”
Mark TwainPosted 7 months ago # -
lota6177
No God and no religion can survive ridicule. No political church, no nobility, no royalty or other fraud, can face ridicule in a fair field, and live. Mark Twain
Posted 7 months ago # -
oblivion
لوٹے کی فلسفیاں چیک کرو ، اور اپنی روشنی تلاش کرو ،
نہ معلومPosted 7 months ago # -
oblivion
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lota6177
The church hates a thinker precisely for the same reason a robber dislikes a sheriff, or a thief despises the prosecuting witness. Tyranny likes courtiers, flatterers, followers, fawners, and superstition wants believers, disciples, zealots, hypocrites, and subscribers. The church demands worship -- the very thing that man should give to no being, human or divine. ~~ Robert Green Ingersoll
Posted 7 months ago # -
lota6177
"Take from the church the miraculous, the supernatural, the incomprehensible, the unreasonable, the impossible, the unknowable, and the absurd, and nothing but a vacuum remains" ~ Robert Green Ingersoll (1833 - 1899)
Posted 7 months ago # -
lota6177
I will not attack your doctrines nor your creeds if they accord liberty to me. If they hold thought to be dangerous -- if they aver that doubt is a crime, then I attack them one and all, because they enslave the minds of men.
Robert Green IngersollPosted 7 months ago # -
lota6177
"We ought not to be embarrassed of appreciating the truth and of obtaining it wherever it comes from, even if it comes from races distant and nations different from us. Nothing should be dearer to the seeker of truth than the truth itself, and there is no deterioration of the truth, nor belittling either of one who speaks it or conveys it."
Al Kindi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Ishaq_al-KindiPosted 5 months ago # -
lota6177
جاوید احمد غامدی نے کہا کہ فرقہ واریت کو ختم کرنے کی کوئی ضرورت نہیں ہے کیونکہ جب تک انسان سوچتا اور غور کرتا ہے، گروہ بنتے رہیں گے، لوگ سوچیں گے تو اختلاف کرتے رہیں گے اور یہ کوئی خرابی کی بات نہیں ہے، فرقوں کو ختم کرنے کے بجائے ان کے ساتھ جینا سیکھنا چاہیے، اختلاف کو مخالفت نہ بنائیں، ایک دوسرے کی عزت کرنی سیکھنا چاہیے، اور یہ سکھیں کہ ہم بندوق یا ہتھیار کے زور پر بات نہیں کریں گے بلکہ دلیل کی بنیاد پر بات کریں گے، ہمیں ہر حال میں دوسرے کی بات سننی ہے اور اس کو اپنی بات کہنے کا موقع دینا ہے، دوسروں پر کفر کے فتوے نہیں لگانے، ہمیں ہر حال میں اتنی بات پر اکتفا کرنا ہے کہ ہم اس رائے سے اتفاق نہیں کرتے یا اس کو صحیح نہیں سمجھتے اور اس سے زیادہ کا حق ہمیں خدا نے نہیں دیا، یہ دنیا جس سکیم پر بنی ہے وہ یہ ہی ہے کہ لوگ اپنے اپنے طریقے سے سوچیں اور پھر اپنے فکر اور عمل کی بنیاد پر خدا کے سامنے جوابدہ ہوں۔‘
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2012/11/121125_talking_point_sectarianism_zz.shtmlPosted 5 months ago # -
lota6177
Reason and Ignorance, the opposites of each other, influence the great bulk of mankind. If either of these can be rendered sufficiently extensive in a country, the machinery of Government goes easily on. Reason obeys itself; and Ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it." Thomas Paine
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