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		<title>By: Egg Donor :</title>
		<link>http://criticalppp.com/archives/7074/comment-page-1#comment-39134</link>
		<dc:creator>Egg Donor :</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 02:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>college books specially those that are technical related are a bit epxensive to buy                                                                              .</description>
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		<title>By: Aamir Mughal</title>
		<link>http://criticalppp.com/archives/7074/comment-page-1#comment-3938</link>
		<dc:creator>Aamir Mughal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-3935&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-3935&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;oojee&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-3925&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Aamir Mughal &lt;/a&gt;
They will go where ever they find opportunities and resources to work. Who are you to dictate someone where he or she should live or not??
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It is Haraam [Unlawful] living in a country which is Daarul Kufr.</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-3935" rel="nofollow">oojee</a> :</strong><br />
<a href="#comment-3925" rel="nofollow">@Aamir Mughal </a><br />
They will go where ever they find opportunities and resources to work. Who are you to dictate someone where he or she should live or not??
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<p>It is Haraam [Unlawful] living in a country which is Daarul Kufr.</p>
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		<title>By: oojee</title>
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		<dc:creator>oojee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-3925&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Aamir Mughal &lt;/a&gt; 
They will go where ever they find opportunities and resources to work. Who are you to dictate someone where he or she should live or not??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-3925" rel="nofollow">@Aamir Mughal </a><br />
They will go where ever they find opportunities and resources to work. Who are you to dictate someone where he or she should live or not??</p>
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		<title>By: Aamir Mughal</title>
		<link>http://criticalppp.com/archives/7074/comment-page-1#comment-3927</link>
		<dc:creator>Aamir Mughal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darul Ashaat i.e. Taqi and Rafi Usmani and co. [I hope you remember their statement about Blackwater] and by the way these two &quot;Yajoo/Majooj&quot; have declared &quot;Banking&quot; a Halal act through Fatwa. If you are quoting their Fatwa then please read Fatwa against them: [The News Published the story and link is now dead, guess why???

Islamic banking, TV channels against Shariah, declare religious scholars Saturday, August 30, 2008 News Desk

RAWALPINDI: Describing the existing Islamic banking by any name as against the Shariah and forbidden, religious scholars belonging to Fiqhi Majlis, Karachi, have decreed that banks working in the name of Islamic banking are not different from other banks and dealing with them is illegitimate.

The decree was issued in a meeting at the Jamia Farooqia in Shah Faisal Colony chaired by Maulana Salimullah Jan, President of Tanzeematul Madaris and Wafaqul Madaris, and attended by reputed religious scholars from all over the country. The meeting also discussed in detail the status of Islamic television channels in accordance with the Shariah and described their research and experiences in the light of questions and problems received at their respective centres. Some scholars also presented their research papers in this regard.

On the occasion, Maulana Salimullah Jan said that the religious scholars were contacting banks that had been claiming to practice Islamic banking and did research on the prevailing banking practices in the light of the Holy Quran and Sunnah. He said they also held meetings with modern economic experts. He said after detailed consideration, the scholars unanimously declared the Islamic banking and television channels as illegitimate. The scholar also said the kinds of pictures of a living being so far introduced were liable to be dealt with in accordance with the religious commandments. He said the launching of any type of television channel or participation in any television programme declaring it was needed for preaching had also been declared illegitimate. He said the scholars appealed to the Muslims to avoid television like other deeds forbidden by the Shariah.

The participants of the meeting included Mufti Abdul Hameed Deenpuri (Jamia-al-Aloom Islamia, Banori Town), Mufti Habibullah Sheikh (Jamia Islamia, Clifton), Mufti Rafiq Ahmed and Mufti Saif Alam (Banori Town), Mufti Abdullah (Khairul Madaris, Multan), Mufti Ghulam Qadir (Darul Aloom Haqqani, Akora Khattak), Mufti Ahmed Mumtaz (Jamia Khulafa-e-Rashdeen, Karachi), Mufti Zarwali Khan (Jamia Ahsan-al-Aloom), Mufti Ehteshamul Haq (Jamia Rasheedia, Turbat, Mekran), Maulana Saeed Ahmed Jalalpuri (Alami Majlis Khatam-e-Nabuwwat), Maulana Dr Manzoor Ahmed Mengal (Jamia Farooqia), Mufti Hamid Hassan (Darul Aloom, Kabirwala), Mufti Abdul Ghaffar (Jamia Ashrafia, Sukkur), Mufti Saaduddin (Jamia Ilmia, Lakki Marwat), Mufti Gul Hassan (Jamia Rehmia, Sarki Road, Quetta), Mufti Rozi Khan (Darul Afta Rahania, Quetta), Mufti Qazi Salimullah (Darul Huda, Khairpur), Nazir Ahmed Shah (Jamia Farooq-e-Azam, Faisalabad), Mufti Saeedullah (Jamia Arabia Naeemul Islam, Quetta), Mufti Samiullah (Jamia Farooqia), Mufti Ahmed Khan and others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darul Ashaat i.e. Taqi and Rafi Usmani and co. [I hope you remember their statement about Blackwater] and by the way these two &#8220;Yajoo/Majooj&#8221; have declared &#8220;Banking&#8221; a Halal act through Fatwa. If you are quoting their Fatwa then please read Fatwa against them: [The News Published the story and link is now dead, guess why???</p>
<p>Islamic banking, TV channels against Shariah, declare religious scholars Saturday, August 30, 2008 News Desk</p>
<p>RAWALPINDI: Describing the existing Islamic banking by any name as against the Shariah and forbidden, religious scholars belonging to Fiqhi Majlis, Karachi, have decreed that banks working in the name of Islamic banking are not different from other banks and dealing with them is illegitimate.</p>
<p>The decree was issued in a meeting at the Jamia Farooqia in Shah Faisal Colony chaired by Maulana Salimullah Jan, President of Tanzeematul Madaris and Wafaqul Madaris, and attended by reputed religious scholars from all over the country. The meeting also discussed in detail the status of Islamic television channels in accordance with the Shariah and described their research and experiences in the light of questions and problems received at their respective centres. Some scholars also presented their research papers in this regard.</p>
<p>On the occasion, Maulana Salimullah Jan said that the religious scholars were contacting banks that had been claiming to practice Islamic banking and did research on the prevailing banking practices in the light of the Holy Quran and Sunnah. He said they also held meetings with modern economic experts. He said after detailed consideration, the scholars unanimously declared the Islamic banking and television channels as illegitimate. The scholar also said the kinds of pictures of a living being so far introduced were liable to be dealt with in accordance with the religious commandments. He said the launching of any type of television channel or participation in any television programme declaring it was needed for preaching had also been declared illegitimate. He said the scholars appealed to the Muslims to avoid television like other deeds forbidden by the Shariah.</p>
<p>The participants of the meeting included Mufti Abdul Hameed Deenpuri (Jamia-al-Aloom Islamia, Banori Town), Mufti Habibullah Sheikh (Jamia Islamia, Clifton), Mufti Rafiq Ahmed and Mufti Saif Alam (Banori Town), Mufti Abdullah (Khairul Madaris, Multan), Mufti Ghulam Qadir (Darul Aloom Haqqani, Akora Khattak), Mufti Ahmed Mumtaz (Jamia Khulafa-e-Rashdeen, Karachi), Mufti Zarwali Khan (Jamia Ahsan-al-Aloom), Mufti Ehteshamul Haq (Jamia Rasheedia, Turbat, Mekran), Maulana Saeed Ahmed Jalalpuri (Alami Majlis Khatam-e-Nabuwwat), Maulana Dr Manzoor Ahmed Mengal (Jamia Farooqia), Mufti Hamid Hassan (Darul Aloom, Kabirwala), Mufti Abdul Ghaffar (Jamia Ashrafia, Sukkur), Mufti Saaduddin (Jamia Ilmia, Lakki Marwat), Mufti Gul Hassan (Jamia Rehmia, Sarki Road, Quetta), Mufti Rozi Khan (Darul Afta Rahania, Quetta), Mufti Qazi Salimullah (Darul Huda, Khairpur), Nazir Ahmed Shah (Jamia Farooq-e-Azam, Faisalabad), Mufti Saeedullah (Jamia Arabia Naeemul Islam, Quetta), Mufti Samiullah (Jamia Farooqia), Mufti Ahmed Khan and others.</p>
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		<title>By: Aamir Mughal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aamir Mughal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-3922&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;oojee&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
@ mughal
I see no connection of your comment to the argument under discussion. It’s more like criticism for the sake of criticism.
Idrees Zubair and Farhat Hashmi are world class educators and they are running an “international” organization. Dr Farhat had earlier been busy in Islamic education in Dubai.
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 So why these World Class Preachers left Pakistan for Canada????</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-3922" rel="nofollow">oojee</a> :</strong><br />
@ mughal<br />
I see no connection of your comment to the argument under discussion. It’s more like criticism for the sake of criticism.<br />
Idrees Zubair and Farhat Hashmi are world class educators and they are running an “international” organization. Dr Farhat had earlier been busy in Islamic education in Dubai.
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<p> So why these World Class Preachers left Pakistan for Canada????</p>
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		<title>By: oojee</title>
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		<dc:creator>oojee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ mughal
I see no connection of your comment to the argument under discussion. It&#039;s more like criticism for the sake of criticism.
Idrees Zubair and Farhat Hashmi are world class educators and they are running an &quot;international&quot; organization. Dr Farhat had earlier been busy in Islamic education in Dubai.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ mughal<br />
I see no connection of your comment to the argument under discussion. It&#8217;s more like criticism for the sake of criticism.<br />
Idrees Zubair and Farhat Hashmi are world class educators and they are running an &#8220;international&#8221; organization. Dr Farhat had earlier been busy in Islamic education in Dubai.</p>
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		<title>By: oojee</title>
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		<dc:creator>oojee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In their writings people like nfp, are never focusing on &quot;solutions&quot; to &quot;real&quot; problems. Carping about Islam is just their style of writing. It&#039;s their vocation. Because of lack of governance and economic instability, our country is one the brink of destruction. And what do we get form such &quot;intelligentsia&quot;: sermons of intolerance and schism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In their writings people like nfp, are never focusing on &#8220;solutions&#8221; to &#8220;real&#8221; problems. Carping about Islam is just their style of writing. It&#8217;s their vocation. Because of lack of governance and economic instability, our country is one the brink of destruction. And what do we get form such &#8220;intelligentsia&#8221;: sermons of intolerance and schism.</p>
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		<title>By: Gox</title>
		<link>http://criticalppp.com/archives/7074/comment-page-1#comment-3877</link>
		<dc:creator>Gox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is most worrying when people like nadeem paracha use the privilege of education and knowledge for their personal moments of fame. Yes, Nadeem, indeed education is a privilege in Pakistan or should i say quality education? Who are we, the younger generation, supposed to follow. Each one famous has his own set of hypocrisies. Mr. Paracha is most worried about ideological corruption, false hopes and jihadi tendencies occupying the younger ones&#039; minds. Why is he not worried about the systemic corruption, bad governance, baradri system politics, dynasty politics and injustice in Pakistan. Isn&#039;t every ill in the society due to the prevailing injustice? Whether it is economic injustice or any other injustice, it has a fall out. I pay my taxes and i am talking about the huge indirect taxation in Pakistan, still what do i get? Ok. i do not want any facilities from the government other than the security of my life, my assets and my family. Can i have that? Can this government provide me this much? No is the answer i guess. Why are you trying to do here Mr. Nadeem? Thumping your intellectual superiority. All your mocking. Ok. Agreed. you are more educated, more refined, with a superior intellect and with infinite wisdom. So if this is out of the way and you have succeeded in making your point. Do you have anything else to say? Anything which is more compassionate, more humble, more sincere, more thought-provoking and less abstract. Abstract is the word i think i was searching for. I will be very happy when instead of nitpicking you have concrete solution for the real problems of this society. Agreed, we do not have that much intellect, perhaps you can make it more simpler for us un-educated, uncivilized and idealistic fools. I will be indeed thankful to you for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is most worrying when people like nadeem paracha use the privilege of education and knowledge for their personal moments of fame. Yes, Nadeem, indeed education is a privilege in Pakistan or should i say quality education? Who are we, the younger generation, supposed to follow. Each one famous has his own set of hypocrisies. Mr. Paracha is most worried about ideological corruption, false hopes and jihadi tendencies occupying the younger ones&#8217; minds. Why is he not worried about the systemic corruption, bad governance, baradri system politics, dynasty politics and injustice in Pakistan. Isn&#8217;t every ill in the society due to the prevailing injustice? Whether it is economic injustice or any other injustice, it has a fall out. I pay my taxes and i am talking about the huge indirect taxation in Pakistan, still what do i get? Ok. i do not want any facilities from the government other than the security of my life, my assets and my family. Can i have that? Can this government provide me this much? No is the answer i guess. Why are you trying to do here Mr. Nadeem? Thumping your intellectual superiority. All your mocking. Ok. Agreed. you are more educated, more refined, with a superior intellect and with infinite wisdom. So if this is out of the way and you have succeeded in making your point. Do you have anything else to say? Anything which is more compassionate, more humble, more sincere, more thought-provoking and less abstract. Abstract is the word i think i was searching for. I will be very happy when instead of nitpicking you have concrete solution for the real problems of this society. Agreed, we do not have that much intellect, perhaps you can make it more simpler for us un-educated, uncivilized and idealistic fools. I will be indeed thankful to you for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Aamir Mughal</title>
		<link>http://criticalppp.com/archives/7074/comment-page-1#comment-3876</link>
		<dc:creator>Aamir Mughal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then why Idrees Zubair and Farhat Hashmi left Pakistan [Daarul Islam] to live in Canada [Daarul Kufr].</description>
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		<title>By: Gox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Oojee
Very true. And you wrote you comment without anger or mocking, so it makes even more sense. I do not know where nadeem paracha is going with all this. And i am not even sure about the likes of jamaat islami, imran khan, zaid hamid etc .... Even if someone&#039;s ideas appeal to me, i want to give it some time. Mianarawi ...middle ground ...it is forgotten. All the above mentioned people including paracha living on fringes. I do not want to label nadeem paracha but i do not think he is level headed when he is writing his views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Oojee<br />
Very true. And you wrote you comment without anger or mocking, so it makes even more sense. I do not know where nadeem paracha is going with all this. And i am not even sure about the likes of jamaat islami, imran khan, zaid hamid etc &#8230;. Even if someone&#8217;s ideas appeal to me, i want to give it some time. Mianarawi &#8230;middle ground &#8230;it is forgotten. All the above mentioned people including paracha living on fringes. I do not want to label nadeem paracha but i do not think he is level headed when he is writing his views.</p>
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