Note: It is pertinent to mention that the audio conversation presented in this post appears to be an intentional leak by the Punjabi Taliban or the ISI (first posted on the ISI fan page on facebook). While the exact intentions of this leak are not known, readers / listeners are ‘advised to exercise caution’ in drawing any conclusions. To that end, it may be useful to reflect upon the questions that we pose below:
The LUBP presents a most direct incriminating evidence against Hamid Mir, founder of the Pakistani Taliban Union of Journalists (PTUJ). This telephone conversation between Hamid Mir and a Punjabi Talib took place days before Khalid Khwaja, an ISI operative, was killed by his kidnappers, the Punjabi Taliban.
Please listen carefully to this audio clip and post your comments on the conversation you hear in the comments section below.
In particular, we would like you to comment on:
1. Hamid Mir’s views on terrorists of Lal Masjid (Ghazi brothers);
2. Hamid Mir’s worldview of Islam, Jihad and CIA;
3. His views on Khalid Khwaja;
4. His views on Qadianis
5. His views on Pakistan’s intelligence agencies
6. His views on Javed Ibrahim Paracha, a notorious terrorist of Sipah-e-Sahaba in Kohat (also a leader of PML-N – does that ring a bell?)
7. What was Hamid Mir’s message to Khalid Khwaja’s kidnappers? Did that message lead to Khwaja’s murder?
8. What are Hamid Mir’s links with Hakimullah Mehsud and the Punjabi Taliban (Sipah-e-Sahaba)?
9. Why does Hamid Mir insist that Khalid Khwaja is not an ISI operative but a CIA operative?
10. Who are the real sponsors, protectors and promoters of Hamid Mir?
11. Is Hamid Mir a friend of Pakistan? or a friend of terrorists?
12. Who released this audio conversation? Punjabi Taliban? or ISI? What are their possible motives behind this release?
You can download this audio tape from the following link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?mm25oyymd4d
http://media-convert.com/convert/?xid=15-btvkodql
We will really appreciate if someone could please transcribe the conversation in Urdu and (perhaps someone else might) translate that into English. We request our visitors to help us in this task please.
Update: Read Hamid Mir’s explanation, Taliban’s press release in support of Hamid Mir, and our rebuttal
Update: The conversation is now also available on youtube in two segments:
Part 1
Part 2
Sorry, one more interesting one:
Khalid Khawaja, 2005
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/GF22Df04.html
@Akhtar
He has his right to express his opinion, although i am not agreed with him.
If one is working for CIA, ISI, then why not the other for Taliban.
Freedom of expression and right to chose your way.
Translation provided by Hijazi (of the ISI fan page on Facebook )
TRANSCRIPT: Hamid Mir’s taped call with a Terrorist
Source: http://www.facebook.com/isifanpage
Note: In the following conversation, “HM” is for Hamid Mir and “T” is for Terrorist. My personal comments are marked in red and English translations of respective lines in green.
HM: 00:00: “Aur, uh, bas kaafi dhamaake dhamooke ho rahe hain”
(And, uh, just lots of explosions and blasts going on)
T: 00:04: “Chalein abhi to phir kuch aur bhi kuch honge, abhi l ine mein lage huwe thay” [This shows the caller is indeed a ter rorist, and from the TTP, as you’ll come to see later on]
(Alright, well there are more to come (explosions), they’re in line (suicide bombers))
[This shows that this caller is a ter rorist belonging to TTP/Al Qaeda]
T: 00:09: “To abhi ye kya kehte hain, ye Orakzai ka operation inhon ne band karna hay na nai?”
(So what do they (Army leadership) say, are they going to end the Orakzai
operation or not?)
00:14: “Nai woh kehte hain G band nai karna ab to hum Shumali Waziristan mein bhi charhai
karenge aur 40,000 fauj jo hay woh rawana hojaegi, ek do din mein”
(No, they say we’re not going to end it, infact we’ll start mounting North Waziristan also and 40,000 troops will be deployed there in a day or two) [Hamid Mi r informing ter rorists about Army’s plans]
T: 00:22: “Accha, Shumali Waziristan ke liye?”
( I see, for North Waziristan?)
HM: 00:23: “Hmm..”
T: “Sai sai…”
(Right, r ight..)
T: “Toh unki koi report hay, Khalid Khawaja waghera ki?”
(So is there any report about them, Khalid Khawaja and the others (Colonel Imam, Asad Qureshi)?) [This shows that the call was indeep taped after and the conversation held after Khalid Khawaja, Col. Imam and Asad Qureshi were held hostage]
HM: “Woh kehte hain G Khalid Khawaja saab jo hain woh, koi, Aazam Afridi hay, koi,
Darra Khel mein..”
(They say that Khalid Khawaja is, some, there is an “Aazam Afridi” guy, in Dar ra Khel (area)..)
T: “Tariq Afridi..”
(Tariq Afridi)
HM: “Tariq Afridi, us ke paas”
(With Tariq Afridi) [That Tariq Afridi has held them captive. How does Hamid Mi r know this?]
T 00:44: “To ye matlab hay kya government ke/ISI ke bande hain special ya..”
(So who are they, do they belong to the government/ISI?)
HM 00:50: “Kaun?”
(Who?)
T: 00:51: “Yahi, Khalid Khawaja aur Colonel Imam”
(Them, (meaning) Khalid Khawaja and Colonel Imam)
HM: 00:54: “Khalid Khawaja to mera khyal hay ISI ka banda nai woh to CIA ka
banda hay,
Amreeki CIA ka banda hay aur hayrat ki baat hay ke us ka raabta Taliban ki qayadat se
bhi
rehta hay”
(Khalid Khawaja is not an ISI officer according to me, he is a CIA agent, of the
American CIA and it’s surprising that he’s also in communication with the Taliban
leadership) [The propaganda against Khalid Khawaja starts, so that the ter rorist
on the other end gets provoked by this disinformation and provides wrong
information unknowingly to the TTP/Al Qaeda]
T: “Han idhar jo picchli dafa aya tha to kaafi se milke geya tha, Hakeem UI llah waghera,
sab se na..” [Idhar (here), and then he says met “Hakeem Ullah Mehsud, so this
means the caller was in Waziristan and a man who’s in touch with TTP and
Hakeem Ullah]
(Yes, when he came here the last time, he met quite many of them, Hakeem Ullah
etc., with everyone)
HM: 01:08: “Kyunke ye to mujhe zaati tor pe is baat ka pata hay ke Khalid Khwaja jo hay
woh,
uh, uska na sirf ye ke Amreeki CIA se raabta hay balke Qadyanion ka ek bohat bara
bayn ul
aqwaami network jo hay, us mein ek admi hay Mansoor Ejaz, jo ke Amreeki hay. To
ye uska front
may aur ek dafa Mansoor Ejaz ko le ke Khalid Khawaja mere paas aya tha, aur usne
Mansoor Ejaz ko kaha, k, um, Mansoor Ejaz ko le ke mere paas aya, uske paas ek briefcase
tha.
Aur Khalid Khawaja saab ne mujhe kaha G ke ‘Ye Mansoor Ejaz saab hain aur ye Amreeki
hukumat ke bohat bare numaende hain, to in ki aap mulaqat Syed Salahuddin saab se
karwadein
jo Hizbul Mujahideen k sarbaraah hain, aur ye unke saath milkar Masla e Kashmir hal
karwadenge. To meine inse poocha G ke ye.. in ke paas kaun sa aisi gidar-singi hay ya aisa
kaun
sa jaadu ka chiragh hay jo Masla e Kashmir hal karwadenge? Toh, unhon ne kaha G ke
inka, jo
hai na, woh Indian Government se bhi raabta hay aur inka Vajpayee se bhi raabta hay, toh,
mein
bara hayran hua. Meine phir mulaqat to nai karwai”
(Because I know this personally that Khalid Khawaja, not only is he in contact with
the American CIA but furthermore there is an American citizen by the name of
Mansoor Ejaz, who belongs to an international Qadyani network. So he (Khalid
Khawaja) is his (Mansoor Ejaz’s) frontman and once Khalid Khawaja came to me
alongwith Mansoor Ejaz. He had a briefcase with him. And Khalid Khawaja told me
‘This is Mr. Mansoor Ejaz and he is a noted representative of the American
Government, so you please ar range for his meeting with Syed Salahuddin who is the
head of the Hizbul Mujahideen (Kashmir), and he will cooperate with him in
resolving the Kashmi r dispute’. So I (Hamid Mi r) asked him (Khalid Khawaja) that,
what sort of magic wand or magic lamp does he (Mansoor Ejaz) have with which
he’ll resolve the Kashmir dispute? So, he said that he is also in contact with the
Indian Government and also Vajpayee (ex Indian PM), so, I was quite surprised. I
did not ar range for their meeting though)
HM: 02:13: “Meine Salahuddin saab se poocha, Salahuddin saab ne kaha G ye admi jo hay,
ye
peghamat bhej raha hay Khalid Khwaja, ke aap jo hay woh barah e raast India ke saath aur
Amreeka ke saath muk-maka karein, Pakistan ko beech mein se nikal dein. Toh uske baad
woh jo
Mansoor Ejaz hay, usne mujhe kaha ke “Aap hamara saath denge ya nai denge?” Meine
kaha
“Mein saath nai dunga” Toh phir us ne sazish ki aur phir sazish ke nateeje mein woh mein
phir
Roznama Ausaaf ka editor tha, toh us ne mujhe phir wahan se nikalwa dia.”
( I asked Mr. Salahuddin, he said this man Khalid Khawaja, he is sending messages
that you (Syed Salahuddin) settle the disputes once and for all directly with
America and India, remove Pakistan from between. So after this, Mansoor Ejaz
asked me “Will you assist us or not?” I said “I will not assist you” So after that he
conspired and as a result he got me removed from my post as Editor at the Daily
Ausaaf (newspaper))
HM: 02:45: “Toh mein ye samajhta hun ke Khalid Khawaja ka na sirf CIA se raabta hay
balke
Qadyanion ka bhi agent hay, aur mujhe bara afsos hay ke ye qabaeli ilaaqon mein jata hay
aur,
idhar udhar logon se mil ta hay”
(So I think that Khalid Khawaja is not only in contact with the CIA but is also a
Qadyani agent, and I am very sad to see that he goes to t ribal areas and meets
people there)
T: “Nai abhi to mein isko shayad pakar lia hay Taliban ne [HM: Ahan..]. Kyunke inke saath
wala
tha to woh uski jo demand udhar ki unhon ne, jo sahafi tha, 10 million dollar.. To abhi to
woh inke
piche para.. [HM interrupts]
(No, r ight now I think the Taliban (TTP) have captured him [Hamid Mi r: “Ahan”].
Because their companion who was alongwith them, that journalist (Asad Qureshi),
a booty-demand had been on him for $10 million.. So now he’s behind them)
HM: 03:04: “Aur apko pata hay ke, iski jo biwi hay us ne Lal Masjid mein kya kirdar ada
kia?”
(And do you know, his (Khalid Khawaja’s) wife, what role she played in the Lal
Masjid issue?)
T: “Nai woh to matlab kuch pata hay ke negative bohat kia tha lekin.. [HM interrupts
again..]
(No, that I do know of a little bit that she played a very negative role, but..)
HM: 03:11: “Woh ye tha ke Abdur Rasheed Ghazi saab jo hain, Allah unko jannat naseeb
kare,
unhon ne akhri waqt mein jo mere saath baat ki thi woh ye ki thi, woh ye keh rahe thay ke,
uh, ye
to pata hai na aap ko ke un ka Maulana Abdul Aziz saab ke saath mukammal tor par
it tafaq nai
tha.”
( It (her role) was that Mr. Abdur Rasheed Ghazi (slain Lal Masjid cleric), May Allah
bless him with Paradise, the last conversation that he had with me was that, uh,
you do know that he was not in total agreement with Maulana Abdul Aziz (his
brother)?)
T: “Jee jee haan ye to unka woh tha..”
(Yes yes, yeah it was their..)
HM: 03:28: “Woh ye kehte thay ke jo andar bacche aur bacchiyan thay, ye woh unko batana
chah
rahe thay, Abdur Rasheed Ghazi saab, aur is maqsad ke liye unhon ne kafi lachak ka
muzahira
kia aur yahan tak karlia tha unhon ne, ke woh keh rahe thay mein giraftari dene ke liye bhi
tayyar
hun, shart sirf ye thi ke mere saath jo log hain in ko giraftaar nai kia jaega aur inko aap
chhor
denge, mein giraftari de dunga. Toh lekin ye jo Khalid Khawaja ki biwi hay, isne
Umme
Hassaan sahiba ke l iye itna zyada dabao daala, itna zyada dabao daala ke aakhr e
kaar Maulana
jo Abdul Aziz saab hain, woh apne bhai se pooche baghair, ye Khalid Khawaja jo
hay ye us mein
mulawwas tha, aur woh burqa pehn ke bahir agaye.
(He said that the male and female students inside, he (Abdur Rasheed Ghazi)
wanted to tell them, and for this purpose he showed much flexibility to the extent
that he said I am even willing to get ar rested, the only condition is that the people
who are with me, they will not be ar rested and you will leave them, I will give the
ar rest. But this man Khalid Khawaja, his wife, she put so much pressure on Umme
Hassan (wife of Abdur Rasheed Ghazi), so much pressure, that at last Maulana
Abdul Aziz, he did not consult his brother and came outside disguised in a burqa,
Khalid Khawaja was involved in it.)
T: 04:10: “Salamu alaikum. Jee woh kat geya tha.. toh, kya keh rahe thay aap unki wife
ka?”
(Salamualykum. Yes, sor ry it had cut (the call).. so, what were you saying about his
wife?)
HM 04:18: “Haan mein aap ko bataa raha tha ke inki wife jo hain inhon ne itna zyada
dubao daala
ke Ghazi saab kehte thay ke G woh kehti k “Nai sirf larhna hay, sirf larhna hay, aur sirf
shaheed
hona hay, shaheed hona hay” Aur uske baad, ye ke na sirf ye ke Khalid Khawaja saab
masjid
mein se nikal gaye balke woh khud bhi bhaag gai, iski biwi jo hay, Khalid Khawaja ki..”
(Yes, I was telling you that his wife, she exerted so much pressure that Abdur
Rasheed Ghazi said that she is saying “No you only have to fight, only fight, and
only get martyred, get martyred” And after that, not only Khalid Khawaja got out of
the mosque but even his wife ran outside, (the wife of Khalid Khawaja))
T: “Accha, haan ye to suna tha woh bhaag gai thi baad mein”
(Yes, yeah we heard that she ran away after that)
HM: “Woh bhi bhaag gai aur uske baad phir woh, uh uh, Maulana Aziz saab bhi nikal gaye
unko,
uh burqa pehn ke bahir nikle. Inhon ne..” [T inter rupts...]
(She also ran away and then, uh, Maulana Abdul Aziz also took the exit, uh, he wore
a burqa and came outside. They..)
T: “Kyunke woh inhon ne hi majboor kia tha..”
(Because they (Khalid Khawaja and his wife) were the ones who forced them..)
[Unnecessarily starting to emotionally provoke the ter rorist against Khalid
Khawaja]
HM: “Haan, inhon ne hi karwaya tha. Toh woh bahir nikle uske baad phir unko giraftar
karlia aur
phir woh jab giraftar hogaye toh uske baad phir jo hay woh, uh, jo apna, Abdur Rasheed ki
wife
sahiba hain, phir unhon ne mujhe phone kia. Unhon ne kaha k ab mere paas koi raasta nai
hay.
Ab mere khandaan pe, aur ulama par itna bara badnaami ka dhabba lag geya hay,
ke, uh,
mere bhai ko burqay mein giraftar kia geya hay aur Pakistan Television par usko is
tarah pesh kia
geya hay. Ye itna bara daagh lag geya hay ke ab ye daagh sirf aur sirf mere khoon se
mitay ga.
Toh, phir unhon ne, bas phir wohi unki baat jo unhon ne baat puri ki aur unhon ne
qurbani dedi.
(Yes, they had done it. So they came outside, then after that they ar rested him
(Maulana Abdul Aziz) and when he got ar rested, after that, uh, the wife of Abdur
Rasheed Ghazi (Umme Hassaan), she called me. She said that now I don’t have any
other way. Now this huge mark of defamation has been stamped on my family and
the scholars, that, my brother has been ar rested in a burqa and has been presented
as such on Pakistan Television. I t is such a huge mark that now it will be removed
only, only by my blood. Then, she, well then she fulfilled her statement and gave the
sacrifice.)
HM: 05:29: “Usne, Khalid Khawaja saab jo hain aur uski jo wife hay, ye to.. aur koi janay na
janay,
Allah Ta’ala ke saamne to jawab ek din dena hi parega..”
(They, Khalid Khawaja and his wife, they are… whether someone else knows this or
not, they will be answerable to Allah Almighty sooner or later)
T: “Kyunke abhi ye aye thay idhar na, toh, kuch saathion se mere milay thay. Unko ye keh
rahe
thay ke aap ne agar Pakistan mein kaam karna hi hay, toh aap karo, hamare kehne ke
upar, koi
[5:47 unknown word] hain Mianwali mein, keh rahe thay ke unke saath mein aap logon ki
setting
karwa dunga, to Pakistan mein jo Amreeka ke container jaate hain, inko aap loot lo, aur
uh, inko
aag na lagao. Balke banda bhi hum denge toh usko aap baich dena yeh. Woh keh rahe hain
jo
Pakistan mein kaarwaiyaan karni hain, usko bhi hum aap ko jagah denge, har cheez denge,
paise
bhi denge, agar koi..” [HM inter rupts..]
(Because recently they came here, so, met some of my companions. They were
telling them that if you want to indeed work in Pakistan (wreaking havoc), so you
go ahead, but with our directions, there is (some person) in Mianwali, he said that I
will get you set with him, and that the American containers that come to Pakistan,
you loot them, and, uh, don’t set them on fire. Infact, we will give you the man to
whom you could sell it. He is saying if you want to car ry out operations in Pakistan,
we will also give you the place to do them, will give you everything, even finances,
if some..)
HM: “Woh jo marzi karein aap un containeron ke saath, lootein Amreeka ka saamaan, usko
aap
lootein, jalayen, usse mujhe koi sarokaar nahin, lekin is ko, isko ye to poochein ke tumhara
Mansoor Ejaz se aur William Casey se kya talluq? William Casey CIA ka sarbaraah tha,
aur ye jo
hay ye khud mere saamne aitraaf kar chuka hay ke is ka William Casey ke saath talluq
raha hay.
Isse kahein ke chalo William Casey ko bhi chhoro, jo Qadyani hote hain, mein to Qadyanion
ko
kaafron se bhi baddtar samajhta hoon, iska Qadyanion se kya talluq hay? Mansoor Ejaz se
is ka
kya talluq hay, ye usse paise kyun khata hay, ye uske saath, woh Pakistan jab ata hay, to ye
usko leke har jagah pe kyun phir ta hay? Ye mujahideen ke paas leke usko kyun jaata hay..”
(Let them do whatever they want with the containers, whether they loot American
containers, you loot them, burn them, I have nothing to do with that. But ask him
(Khalid Khawaja), ask him what his relation is with Mansoor Ejaz and William
Casey? William Casey was the head of the CIA, and this guy (Khalid Khawaja), he
himself confessed infront of me that he has had relations with William Casey. Ask
him fine, even if we keep William Casey aside, these Qadyani people, I consider
Qadyanis to be worst than infidels, what are his relations with the Qadyanis? What
is his relation with Mansoor Ejaz, why does he take finances from him, when he
(Mansoor Ejaz) comes to Pakistan, why does he take him around? Why does he take
him to the mujahideen?)
T: “Balke isne to apna beta bhi idhar Al Qaeda mein bheja hua hay, toh woh..” [HM
interrupts...]
( Infact he (Khalid Khawaja) has also sent his own son here at Al Qaeda, so he..)
[The ter rorist says “here” Al Qaeda, which means he is a TTP/Al Qaeda operative]
HM: 06:50: “Haan iska beta bhi jasoos hi hoga is ki tarah.”
(Yeah his son might also be a spy like him..)
T: “Haan woh to meri unse hui thi baat na, Sheikhon se, toh unhon ne kaha tha ke hum ne
isko na
bilkul, side pe rakkha hua hay.”
(Yes I had a talk on this with the (Al Qaeda) Sheikhs, so they said that we have kept
him (his son) completely aside)
HM: “Hmm…”
HM: “Ye jo sab se bara jo dhoka kia woh ye kia tha, ke aik dafa isne mujhe kaha G ke aik
koi, uh,
mujahid tha, Abdul Rehman al-Kennedy..” [T inter rupts..]
(The biggest deceit that he car ried out, was that there was this mujahid by the
name of, uh, Abdul Rehman al-Kennedy…)
T: “G G haan Kennedy woh jo..” [HM inter rupts..]
(Yes exactly, Kennedy who was..)
HM: “Woh yahan ko Shumali Waziristan mein shaheed hogaye thay. [Hamid Mi r dubs
an Al Qaeda ter rorist as a martyr]
(He (al-Kennedy) got martyred here in Northern Waziristan)
T: “Hanji..”
(Yes..)
HM: “Toh ye uski, uh, uski biwi ko aur uski ek beti ko le ke mere paas aya..”
(So this was, uh, he (Khalid Khawaja) came along with his wife and daughter to
me..)
T: “Sai sai..”
(Right, r ight..)
HM: “Aur isne kaha ke iska jo Abdul Rehman al-Kennedy ka beta hay, Kareem uska naam
tha,
woh zakhmi hogeya hay, woh fauj ne giraftar kia hua hay, woh CMH Rawalpindi mein para
hua
hay. Aur aap sirf uski maa ki sirf usse mulaqat karwaden. Toh meine isko kaha yaar ye
mere liye
bara mushkil kaam hay ye main nai kar sakta kyunke ye to pehle hi mere khilaf hain
saare, toh
mein ab kis kis se jaa ke minntein karta phiroon. Usne kaha nai aap bas uski mulaqat
karwa dein,
sirf ek maa ki bete se mulaqat karwani hay. Toh bari mushkil se meine keh kehlwaake woh
jo
aurat thi, woh usko, uh, maine, sirf ye hay ke ek maa jo hay uski madad karni chahiye, us
aurat
ko, uh, CMH Rawalpindi mein bhijwa dia. Woh jab wahan pe pohoncheen to usne burqay
mein se
aik, aik woh chhota sa camera nikaala aur usko apne zakhmi bete ko kehti hay ke tum ab
ek
bayan record karwado, ke jinab ye ke, mera koi kisi se talluq nahin hay, aur mujhe inhon ne
yahan
pe zabardasti rakha hua hay..”
(And he (Khalid Khawaja) said that Abdul Rehman al-Kennedy’s son, his name was
Kareem, he is injured, the Army has ar rested him, he is admitted at CMH Hospital
Rawalpindi. And you please just get his mother to meet him. So I told him I cannot
do such a thing, this is a very tough thing for me, these people (Army) are already
against me all of them, so who do I go to for begging here and there? He (Khalid
Khawaja) said No you just get her to meet him, you just have to get a mother to meet
her son. So, with very complexity, I (Hamid Mi r) did a few contacts here and then
just to get a mother to meet her son, I sent her to CMH Rawalpindi. When she
reached there then she took out a small camera from her burqa and told her
injured son that You just get a statement recorded, that I have no connections with
anyone, and they (The Army) have forcefully kept me here)
T; “Sai sai..”
(Right, r ight..)
HM: “Toh woh, nurse thi usne dekh lia, usne woh camera pakar lia, woh giraftar hogai woh
aurat
wahan pe, tau janab ab saara malba mere pe gira. Unhon ne kaha G ye to aapne bheji aurat
aur
woh aurat jab giraftar hui to pata chala uske paas Canadian passport hay aur do mahinay
pehle
woh Canada se hokay bhi ai thi. Toh.. mein aur phans geya. Phir uske baad mere pe bohat
mushkil waqt aya, mere pe bara ataab naazil hua, aur, jab, phir usko Canadian
Government ne
usko chhurwalia us aurat ko, aur uski beti ko bhi chhurwalia, r ihaa karwalia, Hukumat e
Pakistan
se, woh aurat phir Canada gai, wahan usne Toronto mein jaake press conference ki apne
bete ke
sath, us aurat ne aitraaf kia ke mein CIA ke liye kaam kar ti hoon. Toh ab is tareeqe se i tni
lambi
daarhi rakhi hui hay Khalid Khawaja saab ne, toh, uh, unki biwi jo hay, woh itna zabardast
hijab
kar ti hay toh, inhon ne daarhi bhi rakhi hui hay, inki biwi hijab bhi karti hay, ye Islam ke
naam-lewa
bhi hay, aur ye is tareeqe se, hum jaise jo dunya-daar aur gunah-gaar qism ke log hain,
hum ye
samajhte hain ke yaar ye nayk, Allah ke nayk log hain, inki agar hum thori si madad
kardenge to
shayad hamare bhi gunah bakhshe jaen. Toh, jab, hum logon ko ye dhoka dete hain usse
hum
logon ka aitamaad jo hay woh tamam jo mazhabi tabqa hay, usse uth jata hay.”
(So she, the nurse there, saw this, she got hold of the camera, the woman got
ar rested there, and then the whole blame came on me. They told me that it’s you
who sent this woman here and that woman, when got ar rested, it was found out
that she has a Canadian passport and she had come back from Canada 2 months
ago. So… I got further entangled. Then after that came a lot… a lot of tough-time,
lots of calamities were unleashed on me, and, when, then the Canadian
Government got her freed (the woman), and also her daughter from the Govt. of
Pakistan. That woman then went to Canada, there at Toronto she held a press
conference along with her son In which she confessed that she worked for the CIA.
So in this way, Khalid Khawaja has kept such a long beard, his wife also does hijab,
they talk about Islam also, and in this way, we the sinners consider them to be the
pious people of Allah and we t ry to help them out thinking that we might get
reward in return and we might get admonished. So, when people like them deceive
us, then we lift our t rusts from the all the religious factions eventually)
T: “Bilkul ye to asal mein, matlab hay ke, ghalat hum bhi nai Fauj bhi nai hay, lekin jo aise
log
hain na, inhon ne matlab hay bohat zyada mushkilat paida ki hain.’
(Exactly, they are in reality, I mean, neither we are wrong nor is the Army, but
these kind of people, I mean they have created a dearth of problems)
HM: “Bahar-haal agar ye kahin pe hay to isko pooche to sai na ke tum ne Abdur Rehman
al-Kennedy ka bhi naam istemal kia, tum ne Mansoor Ejaz ke sath milke bhi kaam kia,
tum
William Casey ke saath milke bhi kaa.. [skips to another statement] Phir ye ek aur Kohat
mein
Javed Ibrahim Paracha saab hain..”
(Ayways, if he (Khalid Khawaja) is somewhere then ask him that you used the name
of Abdul Rehman al-Kennedy, you also worked with Mansoor Ejaz, you also worked
with William Casey… [skips] Then there’s this other guy in Kohat, some Javed
Ibrahim Paracha..)
T: “Jee jee..”
(Yes, yes..)
HM: “Javed Ibrahim Paracha saab ka wahan pe bohat bara madrassa hay”
(Javed Ibrahim Paracha has a very big madrassa there)
T: “Haan G unka bohat bara madrassa hay unka bara”
(Yes indeed, he has a very large madrassa there)
HM: “Aur woh jo hain hamesa, uh, jo hain wohh, uh, ye qabaeli ilaaqon mein jo log, uh,
Amreeka
ke khilaf kaam kar te hain, ye hamesha unki madad karte hain Paracha saab..”
(And he (Javed Ibrahim Paracha), he always, uh, these people in the t ribal areas,
uh, who work against America, Paracha always helps them..)
T: “Jee jee……Haan G unko chhurwate bhi hain”
(Yes yes.. yeah and he also gets them released)
HM: “Haan, aap ke saamne hai na, unki toh khidmaat se aap sab log waqif hain..”
(Yes, the whole scenario’s in front of you, you people are well aware of his
services..)
T: ‘Haan G bilkul”
(Yes indeed)
HM: “To ye Paracha saab ko dhokay se isne bulaya Islamabad, Khalid Khawaja ne..”
(So this guy Paracha was deceitfully called to Islamabad (by Khalid Khawaja)..)
T: “Sai sai..”
(Right r ight..)
HM: “Aur usko kaha ke meine aap ki mulaqat karwani hay ek baray ehm aadmi se, aur
usko
yahan pe Serena Hotel mein, ek Amreeki, uh, Naeb Wazeer e Khaarja aya hua tha uske
paas le
geya”
(And (Khalid Khawaja) told him (Paracha) that I want you to meet a very important
man, and brought him here at Serena Hotel to an American, uh, an Assitant
Foreign Minister.)
T: “Sai sai..”
(Right r ight..)
HM: “Aur usko jaake kaha ke G ye admi hain, Paracha saab, to ye aapke, janab [giggling]
Al
Qaeda aur Taliban se aapke muzaakraat karwa sakta hay”
(And (Khalid Khawaja) told him (that American Minister) that this is the guy,
Paracha, so he can get you to talk with Al Qaeda and Taliban)
T: “Sai sai..”
(Right r ight..)
HM: “To Paracha saab jo hai woh baray parhe likkhe aalim thay [giggling], unko samajh
agai thi ke
mere sath dhoka hogeya hay.”
(So Paracha, he was a very educated person, he realized immediately that he had
been deceived)
T: “Bilkul..”
(Exactly..)
HM: “Woh wahan kamre se bahir bhaage aur phir unhon ne mujhe phone kia aur unhon me
mujhe
kaha ‘Yaar tum sai kehte thay iske baare mein”
(He ran away from the room there and then he called me up and said ‘Man you were
r ight about him (Khalid Khawaja)’)
T: “Sai sai..Toh abhi ye hay jo last time unki taraf hi gai hain Paracha sahib..” [HM
interrupts..]
(Right r ight… So, but now he (Khalid Khawaka) went to his (Paracha’s) place the
last time..)
HM: “Woh mujhe Paracha saab ne bataya, unhon ne bataya ke ye mere paas aya tha aur
meine,
wahan pe Colonel Imam bhi aya hua tha aur meine Colonel Imam sahab ko kaha ke iss
bande ke
saath kahin mat jaen. Ab woh unhon ne kaha ke ye, mere yahan pe ajata hay to mein kya
karun,
mein isko ghar se nikaal to sakta nai, lekin iske saath aap kahin na jaen..”
(Paracha told me that, he told me that he (Khalid Khawaja) came to me, and
Colonel Imam was also present there, and I told Colonel Imam not to go anywhere
with this man (Khalid Khawaja). Now he (Col. Imam) said that he (Khawaja) comes
to your (Paracha’s) place, (Paracha said) what can I do, I can’t kick him out from
the house, but you (Col. Imam) don’t go anywhere with him)
T: “Sai..”
(Right..)
HM: “Toh Colonel Imam ko kehta hay, Colonel Imam bhi jo hay woh nai jana chah raha tha
uske
saath, lekin ye jo, zabardasti legeya uske sath.”
(So he tells Colonel Imam, even Colonel Imam did not want to go with him, but he,
this guy forcefully took him along)
T: “Sai sai, ye to matlab daal ke..[skips] picchli dafa to.. [skips] lekin abhi woh bohat inke,
unko
support kar raha hay Shah Abdul Aziz nai, jo MNA hay Karak ka?”
(Right r ight, this means… [skips] but last time [skips] but now he (Khawaja) is
supporting Shah Abdul Aziz a lot, you know, who is the MNA (Member National
Assembly) of the Karak division)
HM: “Hmm..”
T: “Toh woh idhar har bande se mil raha hay ke yaar Khuda ka waasta hay inko chhor do.
Woh ye
keh raha hay.. [HM inter rupts..]
(So he (Shah Abdul Aziz MNA) is meeting everyone here and pleading in the name
of God to leave them (Khawaja, Col. Imam) He is saying…)
HM: “Woh Shah Abdul Aziz jo hay woh, usko isne, bewaqoof banaya hoga”
(He (Khawaja) must have fooled Shah Abdul Aziz also)
T: “Hm hm….Woh to balke idhr ye kehta hay ke tumne sahafi (Asad Qureshi) ko rakhna hay
rakh
lo, uske paise tumhein ye dilwa dega, lekin jo, woh hay.. inko chhor do.
(Hmm… Infact he (Shah Abdul Aziz MNA) is saying you can keep the journalist
(Asad Qureshi) if you want, you will get the ransom on him, but them (Khawaja,
Col. Imam)… leave them)
HM: “Chalein! Chhor dein, ye tau unki marzi hay jinhon ne unko pakra hua hai, ye tau
unki marzi
hay lekin ye un tak, ye 3 sawaalaat to bhijwaen na unko, ke ye unse pucho, ke tumhara
Mansoor
Ejaz se kya talluq hay? Jis ka, baap jo hay woh Pakistan ke aytmi [atomic] raaz le ke bhaag
geya
tha yahan se, Mansoor Ejaz ka baap jo hay woh ek aytmi [atomic] science-daan tha.”
(Alright! Leave them, it’s their choice who have held them captive, it’s their choice
but send them (TTP), atleast send them these 3 questions to ask him (Khalid
Khawaja), that what is your relation with Mansoor Ejaz? Whose father ran away
from here with the atomic secrets of Pakistan, Mansoor Ejaz’s father was an
nuclear scientist)
T: “Haan woh to, woh to..”
(Yeah, he is…)
HM: “Tau woh yahan se Pakistan ke aytmi [atomic] raaz le ke bhaag geya tha Amreeka.
Aur, ek
dafa usne Benazir Bhutto ko ye peshkash ki thi jab woh Wazeer e Aazam theen 1995 mein,
ke
agar aap Israel ko tasleem karlein toh aap ke tamam qarze maaf hojaenge..”
(So he (Mansoor Ejaz’s father) ran off to America with Pakistan’s atomic secrets.
And, once he had made an offer to Benazir Bhutto when she was the Pr ime
Minister in 1995, that if you recognize Israel, then all your country’s debt will be
forgiven.)
T: “Sai sai..”
(Right r ight…)
HM: “Iska matlab ye hay ke uska Israel se bhi talluq hay.”
(This means that he (Khawaja) also has relations with Israel) [Hamid Mi r boosts his
propaganda]
T: “Kyunke inka ye, matlab, mujhe jo ye keh raha tha ke woh, matlab hay woh doosron
saathion
ko, ke bhai aap karo, Pakistan mein karo kaam, jo kahenge hum, woh karo. Matlab
asal
mein jo shayad ye Pindi mein bhi jo Brigadier waghera unko maara tha, woh bhi mujhe
lagta hay
shayad inhon ne karwaya hoga.”
(Because their, I mean, he was telling me that he, I mean to the other companions,
that go ahead, operate in Pakistan, do what we say. I mean in reality the Brigadiers,
etc. who were assassinated in Rawalpindi, these attacks were also car r ied out by
them)
HM: “Ho sakta hay karwaya ho lekin mein to iss bande ko taqreeban 13, 14 saal se dekh
raha
hoon ye ki tna mashqooq aadmi hay..”
(Maybe they might have done so, but I know this man (Khawaja) for 13, 14 years,
how much of a suspicious person he is)
T: “Sahi hay Insha’Allah ye jo hai na mein ye saath hi usse milta hoon Hakeem Ullah
Mehsud se
2, 3 din mein na, toh, matlab hay saari baat kis tarah se..”
(Alright, this is, I’m going to meet Hakeem Ullah Mehsud r ight after this in 2, 3
days, so,uh, you know, (will share) all these things..) [Ter rorist says he will share
Hamid Mi r’s “facts” on Khalid Khawaja with Hakeem Ullah Mehsud.]
HM: “Theek.”
(Right…)
T: “Sai sai, shukria bohat bohat”
(Right r ight, thank you very much)
HM: “Salamalaykum”
T: “Salamalaykum”
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Hamid Mir is the only guy who openly admits having three one on one interviews/meetings with Osama Bin Laden. If he think Qadiyanis are worse than Kafirs, he is free to do so but here he is trying to incite them against Qadiyanis just because he lost his job from Ausaf on the alleged pressure of a Qadiyani. Its ridiculous. IMO he should be tried for incitement and accessory to murder.
@Scuzzy This is not the first time that Hamid Mir has spitted hate speech against his fellow Pakistanis, i.e., the Qadiani community:
http://criticalppp.com/archives/1421
I would like to challenge the authenticity of this tape but whatsoever if it is real it is an intresting one which will catch a lot of hype. Bottom line stays the same that we must eradicate the Taliban from the country otherwise we looking at big trouble.
@ali hamdani what are your reasons to challenge its authenticity please?
Audiotape shows top editor spoke to Taliban about Khawaja
Islamabad, May 16, (PTI)
Leading Pakistani journalist Hamid Mir’s conversation with a Taliban representative may have played a role in the killing of Khalid Khawaja, a retired Air Force official who was abducted and murdered, a media report has suggested.
An audiotape of conversation recorded between Mir and a man purportedly linked to Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, shows the negative information provided by the former to the latter could have led to Khawaja’s killing, the Daily Times reported today.
In the audio Mir, one of Pakistan’s top TV anchors and Executive Editor of Geo News, can be heard talking about Khawaja’s background.
The conversation, made before Khawaja’s execution earlier this month, reveals Mir “linking Khawaka to CIA, an international network of Qadianis and an American named Mansur Ejaz”.
The tape was first posted by the ‘Let Us Build Pakistan’ blog, and picked up by other online publications.
“It is still unclear who made the tape, with online speculation suggesting that it could be the militants themselves, or even intelligence agencies who released the recording,” the paper said.
Towards the end of the conversation, the man says he will relay the information given by Mir to Hakeemullah Mehsud.
During the conversation, Mir also urges the man to “cross-examine Khawaja about his relationship with Mansur Ejaz, Qadianis and a CIA agent named William Casey,” the paper said.
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/69892/audiotape-shows-top-editor-spoke.html
Hamid Mir, “moderate” top Pakistani TV anchor, caught aiding Taliban jihadists
2010 MAY 16
BY ROBERT SPENCER
Many non-Muslims in Europe and America have been taken in by Hamid Mir, a self-professed “moderate.” I was on to him years ago. So was Pamela Geller. We were both lectured self-righteously about how we had to support “moderates.” And now here we are. I hate to say “I told you so,” but I don’t hate it all that much.
“Hamid Mir’s terrifying indiscretions,” from the Daily Times, May 16 (thanks to Kisan):
LAHORE: A shocking audiotape of a conversation between Hamid Mir – one of the country’s top TV anchors – and a man purportedly linked to the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, has revealed that negative information that Mir passed on to the Taliban could have led to the execution of Khalid Khawaja, the retired Air Force official allegedly killed by a group calling themselves the ‘Asian Tigers’.The tape – which has Mir divulging dirt on Khawaja, ostensibly to someone who is going to cross examine him – was first posted by the Let Us Build Pakistan blog, and picked up by other online publications, including Café Pyala. It is still unclear who made the tape, with online speculation suggesting that it could be the militants themselves, or even intelligence agencies who released the recording.
Whatever the source may be, it is clear that one of the voices on the tape is Mir’s, a fact corroborated by his allusions to events such as his sacking from the daily Ausaf. In the tape, the person on the other end asks Mir for information on Khalid Khawaja. The content of the conversation suggests that this call was made before Khawaja’s execution earlier this month. Mir goes on to detail what he knows about Khawaja’s background, linking him to the CIA, an international network of Qadianis and an American named Mansur Ejaz, who, Mir claims, even offered to solve the Kashmir issue.
At one point, the voice on the other end claims to have abducted Khawaja. Here, Mir volunteers further information linking Khawaja to the Lal Masjid operation, saying that Khawaja and his wife were the ones responsible for the death of Ghazi Rasheed and the humiliating capture of Maulana Abdul Aziz and his family. Mir then urges the man to cross-examine Khawaja about his relationship with Mansur Ejaz, Qadianis and a CIA agent named William Casey….
Will the American non-Muslims who pushed Mir tirelessly before conservative audiences and vociferously denounced those who exposed him now apologize? I won’t be holding my breath.
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/05/16/hamid-mir-moderate-top-pakistani-tv-anchor-caught-aiding-taliban-jihadists/
Audiotape shows top editor spoke to Taliban about Khawaja
Updated on Sunday, May 16, 2010, 21:07 IST
Islamabad: Leading Pakistani journalist Hamid Mir’s conversation with a Taliban representative may have played a role in the killing of Khalid Khawaja, a retired Air Force official who was abducted and murdered, a media report has suggested.
An audiotape of conversation recorded between Mir and a man purportedly linked to Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, shows the negative information provided by the former to the latter could have led to Khawaja’s killing, the Daily Times reported on Sunday.
In the audio Mir, one of Pakistan’s top TV anchors and Executive Editor of Geo News, can be heard talking about Khawaja’s background.
The conversation, made before Khawaja’s execution earlier this month, reveals Mir “linking Khawaka to CIA, an international network of Qadianis and an American named Mansur Ejaz”.
The tape was first posted by the ‘Let Us Build Pakistan’ blog, and picked up by other online publications.
“It is still unclear who made the tape, with online speculation suggesting that it could be the militants themselves, or even intelligence agencies who released the recording,” the paper said.
Towards the end of the conversation, the man says he will relay the information given by Mir to Hakeemullah Mehsud. During the conversation, Mir also urges the man to “cross-examine Khawaja about his relationship with Mansur Ejaz, Qadianis and a CIA agent named William Casey,” the paper said.
Bureau Report
http://www.zeenews.com/news627188.html
well anyone challenging and trying to doubt or trying to gain further insights into this drama, read Hamid Mir’s own column in his own words and you wd probably have better understanding http://ejang.jang.com.pk/5-2-2010/images/4045.gif
Hamid Mir explains his position on taped conversation:
http://criticalppp.com/archives/11092
@Akhtar
You are not confused!!!, I can observe that. But at the same time you seem to have been tasked to do, what you are doing and if so, you should be ashamed of scoring points over a dead body.
You seem to be more concerned about the disgrace meted out to qadyanis than the death of KK and have a bag full of fetwas to issue against anyone having an independent approach to the issue. Why should you expect everyone else to believe you? Why should we take it for granted that KK was a pious person and was not playing a double game?
Non of you two are prophets so let everyone have his opinion.
1st tell me that how can we trust that this tape is real or fake it is n0t c0nf0rmed by isi or even media and these talibans are indian and cia sponsared and it is clear that hamid mir iz cia agent and working 4 fake indian and usa made talibans real and genuine talibans r in afghanistan they r n0t against Pakistan
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[...] week a phone tape appeared on Internet, alleging Hamir Mir in conversation with a Punjabi Talib associate of Hakimullah Mehsud. In the [...]
یہ سارے سازشی لوگ ہمیشہ ایک دوسرے کو اجنٹ کہتے ہیں کیوں کے یہ خود کسی اجنڈے پر ہوتے ہیں تو سامنے والے کو بھی یہ سمجھتے ہیں ،سی ائی ے ہو یا آی ایس آی اصل میں یہ بس ابلیس ہی کے اجنٹ ہیں اور ان سب کی ڈور اسی شیطان کے پاس ہے جس کا کام زمین پر خوں خرابہ کرنا اور مذہب کو بدنام کرنا ہے ،یہ سب پہلے کسی اور کے دشمن ہوتے ہیں اور پھر آپس میں ایک دوسرے کو مارتے ہیں ،پہلے شیطان انہیں چلیں سکھاتا ہے پر یہی چالیں ایک پر الٹ کر آتی ہیں ،زید حمد ،حامد میر ،حمید گل وغیرہ سب طالبان کی حمایتی اور ملا عمر کی حکومت چاہتے ہیں اور سارے دھماکوں اور لڑائی کی حمایت کرتے ہیں ،پر ایک دوسرے کو اجنٹ بھی کہتے ہیں ،مَثَلاً حمید گل طالبان کی حمایت بھی کرتا ہے اور یہ بھی کہتا ہے کے انڈیا ان کی مدت کر رہا ہے ،زید حامد ،حامد میر کو امریکا کا اجنٹ کہتا ہے ،اور حامد میر خالد خوجہ کو امریکا کا اجنٹ کہتا ہے ،اور حمید گل خالد خوجہ کو سچا مجاہد کہتا ہے ،اب حمید گل کیوں اپنے سچے مجاہد کے لیہ حامد میر کے خلاف نہیں بولتا ؟ اور اگر خالد خوجہ سے طالبان ناراض ہیں اور اس کو قتل کیا ہے اور لال مسجد میں خالد خوجہ نے دھوکہ دیا تھا تو کیوں لال مسجد والوں نے اور حمید گل نے ان کی نماز-ا- جنازہ لال مسجد میں پڑھی ؟ . پاکستانی فوج اپنے ایک ریٹایر افسر کے قتل پر خاموش کیوں ہے ؟
اور اگر کوئی زید حامد ،حامد میر ،حمید گل ،خالد خوجہ ،حکیم اللہ محسود ،فضلاللہ،عمران خان ،منور حسن ،مسلم خان ،مست گل ،حکمت یار یا کسی خود کش دہماکے پر جانے والے سے پوچھیں تو سب ہی یہی کہیں گے کے وہ اسلام اور پاکستان ہی کے لیہ کام کر رہے ہیں پر آپس میں ایک دوسرے سے بھی دشمن ہیں .
حامد میر خود تو مذہبی آدمی نہیں پر طالبان شیطانوں کی حمایت کرتا ہے ،یہ لوگ ووہی ہیں جن کے بارے میں حدیث کہا گیا تھا کے یہ لوگ اسلام اسلام کی رٹ لگائیں گے اور اسلام ان کے حلق سے نیچے نہیں اترے گا ،اور ان کے دل بھیڑیے جیسے ہونگے اور الله ان کو ایسے فتنوں میں ببتلا کرے گا کے عقل قلوں کی عقل دنگ رہ جائے گی .
why he only accused Khalid Khawaja for being a CIA agent , why not Col. Imam also, if these information given by Hamid Mir leads to his murder, if Hamid Mir himself a CIA agent then why he only tries make a suspicious image of Khalid Khawaja. Does CIA only wants Khalid Khawaja to be killed by the hands militants and not Col. Imam, although he is a staunch supporter of Afghan Talibans (in a tv program (jawab deyh) when he was asked that if he is also a taliban, he replied no I’m just a servant of them) and he also kept good views about TTP , and about them he said I know these ppls of waziristan they are more good muslims than us and they more good Pakistanies than us, if they are doing anything wrong, it is because we have also done much more wrong things to them than what they are doing (agar unhoon ney koi gunnah kia hai tou hum ney unn sey bara gunnah kia hai).
)).
Now what I’m trying to say that if it is CIA’s job, as u guys trying to portray here that Hamid Mir give all such informations (given by the CIA) to the militants which leads to Khawaja’s murder, then why they left Col. Imam (because definitely CIA would also want COl. Imam to killed), then u also need to admit that, TTP is not CIA backed and hence not controlled by them, and thats the reality
[...] http://criticalppp.com/archives/10918 [...]
Yes everyone has a right to his views but not the right to get someone killed. Here is a man in the custody of the TTP. You are giving them a message that he is a CIA/Israeli agent, that his son must be a spy, that he supports the qadianis who are worse than kafirs in your view. What do you expect will happen? That he will be released unharmed with apologies? No Mr. Mir, No. This was something shameful and you are guilty of you know what. As a journalist you have brought shame to your community. You have no right to lecture others on honesty, patriotism and truthfulness.
Its not a matter if he is expressing his views or not; matter is he is in contect with Taliban! What role is he playing!!! is he playing double game….. What is his role in between this all shit! It is shocking! he is not a professional journalist.. but he is some what MF.
I can’t speak to the authenticity of this tape, but will just mention that everything this person said about “Mansur Ejaz” is plausible, and quite likely the truth.
For years Mansur Ejaz has openly pitched himself as an intelligence operative for the United States. He’s rather well known to the Pakistani American community for his poltical activism and closeness to the Democratic Party (particularly in New York’s Congressional delegation). He maintains close ties to former intelligence appointees James Woolsey and Sandy Berger.
And he is in fact born into a Qadiani family, althought he himself is secular and non-practicing.
Hamid Mir seems to be a worst criminal. His personality reflects like a milkman (Gawala) but he tries to behave like an intellectual. This type of SOB are the creation of Gen Zia’s regime, during that period ISI gave him access to ppl like Usama bin laden and he got fame. This bugger should be thrown out of Pakistan. This SOB was one day appearing in Program 50 mins on his MF mafia TV channel GEO and was making the sanctity of our proud, the great national anthem controversial. He is a layer and traitor of this great country. May Allah bless Pakistan and save us from the sins of ppl like him in the media.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2010/05/100519_hamid_mir_controversy_as.shtml
See how Evil Hamid mir supporting Taliban , Hamid Mir is a murdurer ,Fasadi -He is the real Punjabi Taliban
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPivDYZyh3s
ISI should arrest him, period.
اسلام علیکم ،پروگرام کپیٹل ٹاک کے ساتھ پنجابی طالبان کا نمائندہ حامد میر حاضر ہے ، حکومت کمزور ہو رہی ہے ،عدلیہ سے تناؤ ہے سارے لوگ کرپٹ ہیں بس عثمان پنجابی وزیر ازم اور ملا عمر صدر بنے والے ہیں …….
حامد میر پلیز ذرا یہ بتانا کے اپ کا گروپ یعنی طالبان اب اور کہاں کہاں قتل اور دھماکے کر وے گا مطلب اپ کے بقول ” دھماکے دھموکے “.
تم تو کہیں سے مذہبی نہیں لگتے بلکے شکل سے انتہاۓ مکار لگتے ہو پر ان مذہب کے نام پر قتل کرنے والوں سکے ساتھ کیسے ؟ شیطان کی بھی ایک سے ایک چالیں ہیں ،کتنے لوگ قتل ہوئے ،بچے یتیم ہوئے ،لوگ اپاہج ہوئے اور آپ کے لئے یہ بس “دھماکے دھموکے ” ہیں ،ذرا سوچیں اگر آپ کے بچے ماں باپ ان طالبان کے “دھماکے دھموکوں ” کی زد میں آ یں تو کیسا لگے گا ؟ ،اپ کا دشمن “خالد خوجہ ” بھی آپ ہی کی طرح ایک طالبان تھا وہ بھی اسلام کے نام پر دہشتگردی کی حمایت اور مدد کرتا تھا پر اپنے ہی لوگوں نے اسے قتل کر دیا .یہ الله کا عذاب ہے .آپ کو توبہ کی ضرورت ہے .
محترم طالبان میڈیا کمانڈر آپ سے اپیل ہے کے معصوم لوگوں کو قتل کرنا بند کر دیں ،کم از کم یہ بتا دیں کے آپ کا طالب کب اور کہاں پھٹنے والا ہے تو لوگ وہاں کا رخ نہیں کریں گے ،یہ اپیل حمید گل ،منور حسن ،عمران خان اور دوسرے ان جیسے طالبان سے بھی ہے . جو سالوں سے مذہب کے نام پر ووٹ نہ لے سکے ان قاتلوں کی حمایت کر رہے ہیں کے اور ان کو ایک اسرا ہے کے شاید سب تباہ ہونے کے بعد ان کی حکومت قیام ہو جائے
یاد رکھیں شر سے کبھی خیر نہیں پھیلا ،اور اسلام جیسے پاکیزہ مذہب کو جو الله کی معرفت اور دعوت کا دین ہے اس کو اپنے اپنے مقصد کے لئے استمال کرنا الله کے عذاب کو دعوت دینا ہے
ایک ایک قتل کی حمایت کا اور اس کو سپورٹ اور جسٹیفائی کرنے کا حساب قیامت میں ضرور دینا پڑے گا
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حامد مر کہتا ہے خالد خوجہ امریکی اور قادیانی اجنٹ تھے
حمید گل کہتا ہے خالد خوجہ سچا “مجاہد ” تھا اور اس کو انڈین اور امریکی اجنٹ نے قتل کیا
زید حامد کہتا ہے کہ حامد میر سی ائی ایے کا اجنٹ ہے
خالد خوجہ کا بیٹا کہتا ہے کے حامد میر کا میرے باپ کے قتل میں کردار ہے
خالد خوجہ کی نماز جنازہ میں حمید گل نے شرکت کی اور مولانا عبدل عزیز نے نماز پڑھائی
پر حامد میر خالد خوجہ جو لال مسجد والوں کا قتل سمجھتا ہے
یہ کیسی گھتھی ہے ؟
کیسے فتنوں میں بھینسے ہیں سارے
طالبان میڈیا کمانڈر حامد میر سے گزارش ہے کے ذرا کپیٹل ٹاک میں زید حامد ،حمید گل ،خالد خوجہ کے بیٹے اسامہ خوجہ ،مولانا عبدل عزیز اور لال مسجد کے طلبہ کو بلوائیں اور ایک زبردست پروگرام کریں اور اوم یہ فری اسٹایل ریسلنگ دیکھنا چاہتی ہے ،پھر پتا چلے گا کے کون کس کا اجنٹ ہے اور مجاہد اسلام کمانڈر حامد میر ،خلیفہ زید حامد ،سپاہ سالار طالبان حمید گل اور مولوی آپس میں کیسے گتھم گھتا ہوتے ہیں
thanks ISI for expoising real image of father of terrorist bahnchote hamid mir.Really he is pakistan & shia enemy.
Baiscally he is the enemy of both islam and pakistan. thanks ISI and CIA for expoising real image of father of terrorist Hamid Mir . He is one of the wroste enemy of pakistan and shia’s.
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Hamid mir u have done a wonderfull job in exposing shia and qadayanis, these shias should be eleminated from pakistan, they are the mother of all evils in our country, mother f. are eating up all our resources
@Akhtar
Freedom has its limits. Surrendering information to the enemy of the state and being responsible for the death of a hostage is serious. This nation is under the influence of people like Mr. Mir who are anti state on wonder Taliban are have such a nice time.
well Allah exposes those who think that they are smart and can fix any one. Hamid Mir is one such person who thinks that sun rises from his ass but Mr Hamid Mir…you are not son of a gun…you are not invincible…you are just a cheap dirty enemy of Pakistan… i think that you are even worst than indians as indians openly confront us as enemies but you…you snake in the grass are stabing Pkaistan which has given you so much…he must be publicaly tried and an example be made out of him…bloody dirty intigator…like a dirty intigator woman who goes to every house and instigates one against other…shame on you rascal…die some where..May Allah show you for what you have been doing….
I have a firm belief that he is the direct decendant of Mir jaffar & Mir Sadiq. This traitore should be tried the court and jaled for having contacts with the known enemy of Pakistan
غسان تم حرامي هين شايد تمهارى مان كى زنا كا نتيجه هين جو تم اس دنيا مين هيم
قاديانى تو مسلمان نهين ي تو هم بهى مانتا هين مكر تم حرامي يه اج معلوم هوا جو تم نى شعيه كى بارى مين بات كى الله اور رسول ص كى لعنت هة تم اور تمهارى والدين بر
HAMID MIR TUM BE TO PAKISTAN KEY DUSHMAN HAIN, AGAR TUM HALLAH ZADA HAIN TO JALDI RAH-EHAQ PAR AWO AUR PAKISTAN KAUM SAY MAAFI MANGO, MARY NAZAR MAIN HAMID MIR PAKSTAN KA SAB SAY BARA DUSHMAN HAIN, INDAIN TO KHUL KAR WAR KARTA HAIN MAGAR TUM HAMID MIR TUM TALIBAN SAIN MEL KAR PAKISTAN KEY PAITH PAR WAR KAR RAHA HAIN, AISAH KAM SIRF AUR SIRF EIK HARAMI AUR HARAMI KE AULAAD KAR SAKTA HAIN
Hamid meer is innocent,he is loyal to pakistan…….
yes mr hamid meer and number of other journalists try their best to hv symthy with elements like talibaan and they try their best to rooy off democracy from pakistan and to give open space to taliban to grow,the way he was talking to a terrorist about blasts in pakistan like he ws jst having fun .
http://pkpolitics.com/2010/05/20/tonight-with-jasmeen-20-may-2010/
الله اکبر ،الله اکبر ..کیسی الله کی پکڑ ہے اسلام کے نام پر دہشتگردی اور اس کی حمایت کرنے والوں پر ،سبحان اللہ .جتنا ایسے لوگوں سے اسلام بدنام ہوا ہے کسی سے نہیں ہوا اور الله کی ان سے حساب لے رہا ہے
طالبان کے حمایتی اور جماعت اسلامی سے تعلق رکھنے والے انصار عبباسی نے ایک بار بھی اپنے جماعتی ہونے کا ثبوت دیا ،طالبان کی سپپورٹ مگر دور دور سے، دھماکوں سے سیاسی فائدے ،سوات ماہدے کی حمایت پر جب اپریشن ہو تو طالبان کو چھوڑ کر بھاگ جاؤ ،افغانستان میں طالبان کی حمایت پر حکمت یار کا ایران بھاگنا اور قاضی حسسیں کا افغانستان نہ جانا وغیرہ .انصار عباسی جماتی اب اپنے طالبان دوست حامد میر سے الگ ہوتے ہوئے نظر آتے ہیں .اب دیکھیں کے الله کی پکڑ کب منصورہ کا رخ کرتی ہے -
اسامہ خالد صاحب ، آپ یہ کہتے ہیں کے یہ دھمکاتے را اور موساد کروا رہی ہے ،پر آپ کے والد اور دوسرے مذہبی لیڈرز یہ کہتے تھے کے یہ امریکا کے حملے کے ریکشن میں ہے اور طالبان سے مزاکرات کرو — کنفوز ؟
ہر دھماکے کے بعد حامد میر ،انصار عبباسی ،عمران خان ،مذہبی لیڈرز اور ریٹیر فوجی ٹی وی پر آتے اور کہتے “مذاکرات ،مزاکرات ” یا ردعمل ردعمل اب کہتے ہیں یہ را اور موساد ہیں -کیا یہ کھلا تضاد نہیں ؟ کیوں کوئی مفتی کھل کر ان قاتلوں کی مخالفت نہیں کرتا تھا ؟
آج اپنے دام میں صیاد آگیا .لوگ الزام لگاتے تھے کے یہ لوگ طالبان کے حمایتی ہیں اور ان کی مدت کرتے ہیں پر آج سب کچھ سامنے آگیا ،طالبان کو بچانے اور ان کو عوام میں مقبول بنانے کے لیہ ہزار دلیلیں لاتے تھا آج اپنے آپ کو بچانے کے لئے کوئی دلیل نہیں مل رہی .
All bullshitter’s the one this is not Hamid Mir . Put all this shit with proof . If this conversation has tapped then must be He called also on other number too.
Hamid Mir talk always truth and the people talk truth they always get hard time.
So Mir Bro this is your hard time.
ذرا حامد میر کے سامنے آہستہ بولو
ابھی ٹک کرکے پجابی طالبان سے مروا دے گا
ہم ہوئے تم ہوئےحامد میر ہوئے
طالبان کی سرکار میں پہنچے تو سبھی ایک ہوئے
بم بنانے کے تم ہی استاد نہیں ہو طالب
کہتے ہیں اگلے زمانے میں کوئی میر بھی تھا
بعد مرنے کی میری قبر پر آگیا وہ میر
یاد ہے مسیحا کو دھمکا کروانے کے بعد
Its party time for zayed Hamid. It does not auger well for pakistan. Its difficult to judge
the veracity of audio tape but the way the things developed really reflects very poor on the
part of intelligens agencies and media people of pakistan. It gives us a feeling that
every institution in Pakistan is working for CIA to disgrace the country. I am an Indian but
feel deeply hurt for the country of my forefathers.
when u listen geo news transmission on the day the lal masjid issue was actully initiated. this mr. hamid mir said after showing some people outside masjid with small weapons and said these are not the wepons we (media) have seen inside the mosque they are big in number.
but on the day of conclusion of the operation he changed his veiw and started saying how these wepons are here. these did not belong to these militants.
all these events and this tape clearly show his involvment with terrorists. he is a terrorist in media. and should be strictly investigated and taken to task.
i knew it that he is a taliban agent. not surprised he never condemned suicide bombings or other taliban activities. …
Geo TV does not seems to be doing anything for best of Pakistan…. Geo is just doing their business… Geo is playing role of traitor for the sake of money….
Pakistan main terrorism/ bomb blast aur Geo almost same time main create huway hain…
Hamdid Mir , a friend of Taliban, is a criminal. He should be arrested as soon as possible.
Now PPP is against Hamin Mir and Shai and Qadianies are also. In short term, Cia will sussed but in long term, Pakistan will win. We need people like Geo TV and Hamid Mir, who are exposing the dirty picture. We love you Hamid Mir. Keep going, we need people like you, who are ready to give there blood for our beautiful country and for our future generation.
Request to people , please respect your fmaily and pakistan, If you dont like pakistan, leave and go to other country. If you like IRAn and shai, do and stay in Iran.